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When staying in Chicago... AVOID the Wyndham O'Hare!
On August 4, 2005, I checked in to the Wyndham O’Hare in Rosemont, Illinois, for what would be my absolute worst hotel experience in ten years of travelling.

Shipping Nightmare, Part One

I was in town for a convention at the Donald E. Stevenson Convention Center. I had shipped two boxes of merchandise to the hotel the previous week, allowing plenty of time for delivery. Upon check-in, I requested my boxes, only to be told that they only had one of my two boxes. I assured them that they had both shipped, and requested they look again and perhaps call Tony Mariano in the shipping-and-receiving department, a man I had spoken to the previous week, when I called in advance for information on properly addressing the boxes. Still, I was told that there was only one box.

If I had a tracking number, I was told, perhaps they could help me. I proceeded to my 3rd-floor room, where I called a friend who was able to locate the tracking number (along with the information that the missing box was signed for by an “A. Mariano” the day before). When I went back down to the front desk, they insisted that they had no box. I went back to my room and called Mr. Mariano in shipping and receiving. He insisted he delivered both boxes to the front desk.

When I went to the front desk for the third time with the new information, the desk clerk went to the room behind the front desk and immediately appeared with my box. It had been there all along. She just didn’t bother to look very hard for it until my third trip to the desk.

Misinformation

Before making my reservation through hotels.com, I called the Wyndham O’Hare to ask about some geographical facts. I was told the Wyndham had a skywalk to the convention center and an elevated train stop was across the street, within two or three blocks.

Both of these statements turned out to be untrue.

The State of the Rooms

The room was clean and tidy. However, it should be noted that turning both faucet handles on the sink to the wide-open position resulted in a mere trickle of water.

Bad Directions, Part One

When I asked about the best way to get to the convention center, I was told to take the hotel’s airport shuttle (driven by a particularly surly gentleman) to the airport and then take a train back in to the convention center.

The airport is three miles away, making the total trip six miles, with significant wait time between the shuttle and the train departures.

The convention is a little over two miles from the Wyndham’s front door -- an $8 taxi fare and a five minute ride.

No Shuttle Service

Incidentally, I found out that the Wyndham was one of the very few hotels in Rosemont that was not running a direct shuttle to the convention center for this convention (one that attracted over 56,000 attendees). The Motel 6, with rooms starting at $56 per night, was running a shuttle. The Wyndham, priced at over a hundred dollars per night, was not.

Bad Directions, Part Two

Realizing that we had been lied to in regards to the proximity of an elevated train station, we rented a car. We were appalled at the $14 per night charge for parking.

Worse, this made it necessary to go to the Legendary Wyndham Front Desk to ask for directions. We were told to make a left-hand turn on Mannheim Road and proceed from there.

The Donald E. Stevenson Convention Center is in the opposite direction. We drove for a half-hour going the wrong way, which made me late for the convention.

That was enough to make me decide to write the Wyndham corporation to alert them to the incompetence running rampant throughout their operation in Rosemont, Illinois, and I had only been there for slightly over 24 hours.

The remainder of my stay was not to improve.

Shipping Nightmare, Part Two

At the end of the convention, I had one small box of booth supplies and other items that I wanted to ship home instead of carrying them on the airplane. I asked if the hotel offered the guests shipping services through either FedEx Ground or UPS -- a service for which I would have gladly paid.

I was told that the hotel did offer such a service.

But I was at the Wyndham Front Desk, where nothing is as it seems.

When the clerk rummaged through a desk looking for shipping forms, all he could find was FedEx Airbills.

“I can’t find the other forms,” he told me, “So if you’ll just fill out this form...”

“If I just fill out that form,” I finished his sentence for him, “I’ll pay about four times more than I would shipping via ground services.”

I asked him if he could call down to the shipping and receiving department to get the proper forms.

He told me he would. He picked up the phone and asked security to page shipping. I waited by the front desk. He waited on several other customers.

Twenty minutes later, as he desperately tried to ignore me, I asked, “Any word from the shipping department?”

“Oh,” he said, “We only do Fed Ex Air.”

There had been no phone call between my question and his answer — nor was there a conversation with a co-worker. Nothing. Which can only lead to one of two conclusions: Either he (a) knew all along and was simply trying to see how long I’d stand there, or (b) he was making it up to get rid of me.

No other explanation is plausible and neither scenario is acceptable.

Checking Out... 24 Hours Early

Angrily, I stormed up to my room, but found that my key card no longer worked. Luckily a kind housekeeper took pity on me and let me into the room. I assured her that I could accurately describe the contents of the chest of drawers to prove I was the rightful guest. She graciously declined.

Of course, that meant a trip back down to the front desk where I found out that I had been checked out of the hotel.

It was Sunday. My reservations had been made from Thursday through Sunday night. We had already paid for Sunday night through hotels.com.

But the Legendary Wyndham Front Desk checked us out Sunday morning.

I had to produce my itinerary from hotels.com to prove that I had actually reserved the room. The hotel had actually reserved the room for another guest for Sunday night and suggested that my family and I should move our belongings to another room.

A manager stepped in and that, thankfully, was as far as that idea went.

The Shuttle

Monday, August 8, found us in good spirits. The convention had been a success, but more importantly, we were not to be subjected to any more of the Wyndham Hotels’ Famous Service.

Or so we thought.We gathered in the lobby with several other families to wait for the shuttle to the airport. The shuttle bus pulled up and two men got on. When the rest of us tried to board the bus, we were told angrily by the aforementioned surly shuttle bus driver that “this bus ain’t goin’ to the airport.”

He did not offer any information as to the destination of the shuttle bus — neither to them nor to any of the other dozen or so guests who had gathered in the parking lot.

He stalked into the lobby, returned with some goods in a Target Store plastic sack, and drove the two men away.

No explanation. Nothing but exhaust fumes.

Several families decided to call for taxi cabs, including mine.

As we drove into O’Hare International Airport, guess what we saw driving the opposite direction, coming away from the airport.

The Wyndham O’Hare Shuttle Bus.

I didn’t get a look at the driver, but I’ll bet he was surly.

This goes way beyond wanting an apology.

I want my money back.




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[info]kevinjdog
2005-08-15 03:38 am UTC (link)
Bad customer service gets me boiled. Trust me, I will never use ANY Wyndham hotel. I hope you wrote them an angry letter. It's a shame you didn't get names, though.

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[info]trishalynn
2005-08-15 03:51 am UTC (link)
Well, I used them at Otakon last year and they were fine. Gonna use them again this year. Why? Frequent flyer miles.

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[info]trishalynn
2005-08-15 03:49 am UTC (link)
Give 'em hell, Brad. And do strips about it. ^_^

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[info]jim_lane
2005-08-15 04:59 am UTC (link)
Send their corporate management a copy of this LJ posting, and see if any fireworks ensue--- *evil grin*

I deal with a fairly high-level travel agent, and I'll put in a "bad word" about Wyndham for you. *REALLY evil grin*

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AAA Rating
(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 12:14 pm UTC (link)
Brad, AAA gives the Wyndham O'Hare three diamonds. In fact, if you go to the AAA website and search for Wyndhams in Chicago, the O'Hare is the featured hotel. I strongly urge you to write AAA with this detailed account of your experience, and see if they can't downgrade their rating to warn others.

-Torgen

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Re: AAA Rating
(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 12:16 pm UTC (link)
Quote from their entry in AAA hotel booking:

"Only 5 minutes from O'Hare & 30 minutes to Chicago Loop, the Wyndham O'Hare is the perfect location for leisure or business travel. Let the Wyndham O'Hare show you our brand of genuine hospitality with a stay that is as comfortable as it is convenient."

Oh, and this part:

"Guest Services: gift shop, valet and coin laundry, airport transportation, area transportation-within 5 mi,(emphasis mine) 24-hour room service. "

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Also
(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 01:11 pm UTC (link)
Write a complaint to hotels.com as well. I just sent this to Sally, so it should be making its rounds through the travel magazine community shortly. ;)

-Torg

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Re: Also
(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 02:32 pm UTC (link)
Brad also forgot to mention that the concierge that was supposed to be available was NEVER there! I don't think they have one. Also, they advertise that their shuttle runs every 15 minutes to the airport. It was more like every 45 minutes. I road the blue line from O'hare in and out of the city everyday. It was never less than 45 minutes. I called once and was told it was traffic. I'd buy that except all our neighboring hotels were managing to get their shuttles there every 15 minutes. Another time, I was told no it is every 30 minutes. Worse yet, when I spoke with a manager about how bad the weekend was she could totally of cared less. I saw several people have a lot of problems at the hotel over the weekend. I spent a lot of time waiting for the shuttle in the lobby. They had an internal convention and one of their conventioneers was having a technical problem and the manager refused tol come out and speak to them. I would have been livid if I was treated that way! They seem to have trouble with reservations booked through hotels or expedia not showing up in the system. This was a repeated problem at the desk throughout the weekend. Again way too much time in the lobby....

Caroline

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Re: Also
(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 02:38 pm UTC (link)
Torg!

How do they have a three star rating? Seriously, I've stayed in quality hotels for business many times. They in no way deserve a three star rating. We're AAA members I think we should e-mail them.

Caroline

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Re: Also
(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 03:54 pm UTC (link)
You really, really should. I sent Brad an email from Sally (she couldn't access livejournal due to the machinations of the "network nazis" at her office) and she replied back with an email I forwarded to Brad.

Bascially, one of the travel writers heard a hotel executive say to another that they gave people who booked through the internet discount sites crappy service on purpose. Trying to drive the internet sites out of business I guess, but the customers aren't stupid- they're blaming the hotels themselves.

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[info]carsond
2005-08-15 06:54 pm UTC (link)
Man, I'd have been looking for a change to the Motel 6 on that first night. I do *NOT* put up with bad customer service, no matter what the excuse is.

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Oh yeah...
(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 10:43 pm UTC (link)
I forgot to mention that I haven't made reservations yet for the Florida Assoc of Realtors convention in Orlando yet (last weekend in August, if anyone's interested) so this info comes in handy for me! :D

-Torgen

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Hotel Blues
(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 11:52 am UTC (link)


Was it incompetence, or hotel employees getting revenge for you daring to make them do their jobs? I've definitely had the latter experience, specifically being sent the wrong way on a freeway.

All it takes is standing up to one staff member to have that person tell others you're a "troublemaker" and suggest they pay you back for the problems you've caused.

Chicago is particularly bad about this, something I can attest to personally.



Stickmaker

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Re: Hotel Blues
(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 08:30 pm UTC (link)
I think it was just incompetence and bad management. I spoke with people there for a dog grooming convention and two groups of families there for a famiy reunion. We all had generally very similar experiences of really bad customer service.

caroline

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[info]guigar
2005-08-16 09:42 pm UTC (link)
They posted my entire letter at TripAdvisor.com.

When I went to look at it I realized that TWO OTHER people were complaining about the hotel that had to have been there the same weekend!! One mentions the dog convention that had been taking place in the hotel and another one mentions a convention and was posted around the same time.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g36630-d87681-r3750964-Wyndham_O_Hare-Rosemont_Illinois.html

I've written both the Wyndham O'hare and Wyndham International.

I'm following Torgen's excellent advice and mailing a copy to AAA and urging them to demote the hotel's rating.

I don't expect to hear back from the hotel, but it feels very good to get this off my chest.

And now a brief aside: SOME PEOPLE seem to think that the bit with the walkway to the convention center is MY fault. SOME PEOPLE think I called the wrong hotel. To those people, I say plainly: TTTTHHHHHPPPPPPBBBTTTTTT! I'll check my phone records and confirm it, but part of the conversation that day was comparing the room prices on hotels.com, expedia.com and the Wyndham... it was a whole package conversation... you'd think with my saying "Wyndham" over and over again that if I HAD called the wrong hotel, they would have politely corrected me. But they didn't. Because I DIDN'T call the wrong hotel. End of brief aside.

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Hotel
[info]soullord
2005-08-16 10:52 pm UTC (link)
All I can say is I'll make sure I never stay at that hotel.

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[info]musicchan
2005-08-22 04:45 pm UTC (link)
I reguarly attend a convention in that area every year (Anime Central, also held in the Rosemont convention center and the Hyatt Hotel) and as far as I know, the only hotels that have walkways to the convention center are the Hyatt and Doubletree (and possible the hotel next to the Doubletree, whoes name I forget). I'm not sure why the Wyndham hotel would lie to you saying there was a walkway, unless they forgot which hotel they were. Pretty much, they sound like a horrible hotel chain.

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[info]strredwolf
2005-08-18 11:10 pm UTC (link)
Damn, Brad. I wouldn't of put up with it. I hope you do get your money back, and hope you also called hotels.com -- such service I doubt is tolerated!

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[info]galadrion
2005-08-19 02:37 am UTC (link)
Hey, just found your journal by following this link from GI. (I've been a long-time reader, but this is the first communication - I tend to be a lurker unless something comes up that grabs my attention.) I also checked out your info page, and it turns out we have a few friends in common - mostly other web cartoonists, but also Jim Lane (absolutely loved Redeeming Factors! - so I've gone ahead and added you as well. From the little I've seen so far, it looks like you're someone whose thoughts I'll enjoy following.

About the customer "service" you folks got (and doesn't that just remind you of the service livestock tends to get?): go ahead and rip into them. These people need it, and anyone you can warn needs that warning as well. I've never particularly liked the Wyndham chain in any case - my high school prom was held at the Wyndham in Houston, and it didn't impress me at all. When I do any travelling, I tend to prefer motel chains rather than hotels; it seems I get better service at around a quarter the price, even when there are multiple conventions in town and the service personel are much friendlier. (My impression is that the hotel chains tend to encourage a "corporate worker" mentality, while the motels go for more of a "family business" environment. In any case, I know which one I prefer.) As one example, I was attending a convention in Dallas several years back and rather than using the hotel they recommended, I went with a little no-name place about five miles from the site. They didn't have a shuttle service, but when I asked at the desk about taxis, the manager (actually the owner, I think) told me, "Oh, you don't want to spend all that money!" and drove me himself... and wound up deciding to attend as well, offering me daily rides as part of the package! (I split the membership fee with him as a way of repaying him. Nice guy.)

The drawback, of course, is that the small places can't offer the same sort of services - though they seem to be closing the gap on that score. Still, it's definitely something to consider.

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A little late
(Anonymous)
2005-08-19 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Brad, one other thing to do is make sure you send your comments on directly to the CEO's office, if you haven't already. Copy the better business bureau and anybody else you can think of. Add the links to this posting & anyplace else you've written to.

If the chain is as lousy as people say, you probably won't get anywhere, but going right to the top usually gets faster results. Sending it to the black pit of despair that is most customer service departments is a sure way to get no action at all.

Skinnydan

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[info]shadowydreamer
2005-08-22 03:42 am UTC (link)
The BBB is a very funny place. If you want your money back they'll help you with it, but their "good" rating .. all it means is there's no outstanding complaints. The company can be the worst scum bucket operation ever and be in "good standing" with the BBB.

As far as hotels go.. I've been VERY lucky with Holiday Inns in general. Stayed at a brand new one in Portland (area) and man, the service was absolutely unbelievable.

But yeah, write the CEO, write the senior manager of the hotel, write your paper (that shouldn't be hard), write hotels.com.. If it's a slow news period, contact the local TV station who "investigates" things. They're generally pretty happy to flambay big chains.

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Interesting info!
(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 09:37 pm UTC (link)
hey Brad, I was visiting your site and I stumbled into this journal. It's funny you mention the Wyndham Hotel being crap. i used to live right by it. I lived there back when it was the O'Hare Plaza hotel. That was the hotel that OJ Simpson went to when he flew to chicago after the alleged murders. That hotel has been in the dumps ever since. I think it has had over four new names since then. the latest, The Wyndham Garden Hotel, has been the longest running.

FUNNY STUFF! Sorry you had a rough time.

Paul Roustan

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The Wyndham O'Hare Makes Good
[info]guigar
2005-08-24 11:19 pm UTC (link)
Friday night, I got a call from a manager at the Wyndham O'Hare who apologized profusely for the treatment my family and I received at the hotel earlier this month.

She said that in all of her experience in hotels, she has never received a five-page letter before.

I told her that I actually had to edit some of the complaints out of the letter for the sake of bevity.

To her credit, she only offered apologies to each of the aspects I outlined -- not excuses. Upon pulling up my check-in file, for example, she had seen the notation (from the shipping/receiving department, I would imagine) that there are boxes to be handed to me upon check-in. That would have been facing the front desk person as I checked-in. And yet, that desk clerk insisted that I onlt had one box.

The Wyndham manager was very nice and we spoke for about 45 minutes about the hotel and the problems we experienced with our stay there.

Better yet, she offered to credit my credit card for the better part of my stay at the hotel.

Another example of the power of the written word.

Having spoken to the representative -- and getting a very good feeling that these issues are being addressed -- I would actually consider staying at a Wyndham hotel in the future. Going back to the Wyndham O'Hare might take a little convincing, but it's not out of the realm of possibility either.

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Re: The Wyndham O'Hare Makes Good
[info]shadowydreamer
2005-08-25 06:52 am UTC (link)
Glad to hear you got satisfaction!!

Can't say I'd stay there, but then I have enough friends in the Chicago area to mooch off.. ^_=

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Re: The Wyndham O'Hare Makes Good
(Anonymous)
2005-08-25 07:14 am UTC (link)
Well, better late than never...I have to say I was both shocked and appalled at the actions of such a well-known hotel in MY area. Then again, the regions surrounding O'Hare aren't known for having their fair share of thinkers. Hell, Roesmont alone is stuck in a mob scandal. So much for beating down poor Chicago stereotypes huh? For future trips, I would suggest perhaps the hotels downtown, or even Schaumburg. Sure they seem like great distances, but your dealing with a culture that is either ultra-urban (as no car, bus and taxi only) or commuter-based (where we're used to driving 15min. to the grocery store). Good luck on the next trip. I only just started reading your strip this past week, and I love it! Keep it up. I was referred here from PVP.

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Re: The Wyndham O'Hare Makes Good
(Anonymous)
2005-08-25 05:42 pm UTC (link)
Excellent! I'm always amazed when people don't understand what difference an "I'm sorry" can make.

(Nice about the money and the possible improvement in future service, of course!)

Rock on,

Betty

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Re: The Wyndham O'Hare Makes Good
(Anonymous)
2005-08-25 09:12 pm UTC (link)
which just goes to show - complaining _can_ make a difference, particularly if it is made (reasonably) calmly and logically. good move on the manager's part - she might have managed to retrieve a customer. which is what business is all about (although many people don't seem to get this): GETTING THE CUSTOMER TO COME BACK.

but i hope you took her up on the offer of returning at least part of the money for your stay, because you sure didn't get what you paid for.

mouse

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Re: The Wyndham O'Hare Makes Good
[info]kaelajael
2005-08-26 11:16 am UTC (link)
An apology makes a world of difference - and when a manager takes the time to talk and LISTEN to you, and act on what you've said, it makes things that much better.

Glad it all worked out for you.

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Re: The Wyndham O'Hare Makes Good
[info]gilesgurl
2005-08-26 01:16 pm UTC (link)
I don't think I've ever had a bad hotel experience myself per se, but I recall when I went out to Chicago last year with my boyfriend, his sister, and her fiancee, I think we stayed in Oakbrook, IL. However, I can relate about not wanting to go back somewhere because of a bad experience.

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Re: The Wyndham O'Hare Makes Good
[info]trishalynn
2005-08-27 10:08 am UTC (link)
That's good that they made good on your complaints. I'm actually rather fond of Wyndams and if I have my choice to stay at a hotel, I try to make it a Wyndam one because I'm one of their "By Request" members. Like this year, when I was at Otakon and waiting in the massive line for the elevator to get to my room with my friends, the bellman who helped me with the bags for me and my friends motioned for me to step out of line and follow him. He then proceeded to whisk me and my friends up to our rooms using the hotel service elevator. He didn't have to do that, but it was real nice of him. I forgot to tip him, though.

Also, when we were checking out, it took a CRAZY amount of time for us to get a bellman to take our bags downstairs and check them. The guy who finally did come and get us said that he would put them in our valet-parked car for us so that when we came back from the con, they'd already be in the car. I totally tipped him a tenner.

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